Another observation I have is that the person with the flat might think that they have everything they need to fix whatever only to discover that they are missing something can can be supplied by others. Jim Sent from Samsung tablet. -------- Original message -------- From: Dale Smith via announce <announce@mail.cvcbike.org> Date:07/03/2015 6:44 AM (GMT-08:00) To: Jim Doane <jdoane1175@msn.com> Cc: announce@mail.cvcbike.org Subject: Re: [cvc announce] CVC Ride Preview-July 2, 2015 Well said, -----Original Message----- From: Cameron Young <camshaft@mac.com> To: Dale Smith <dpssmith@aol.com> Cc: CVC <announce@mail.cvcbike.org> Sent: Thu, Jul 2, 2015 10:30 am Subject: Re: [cvc announce] CVC Ride Preview-July 2, 2015 Cliff, et al, There is no policy when someone flats or has a mechanical. It’s more of a courtesy from one cyclist to another to stop and lend a helping hand or just keep them company. Personal choice, I guess. I put myself in their shoes, and how I don’t like to be stopped and continue on solo, which we all have done at some time. So, it becomes a ‘pay it forward’ situation. Many times on a group ride, the mob mentality takes over and people want to stay with the group as if it’s a Grand Fondo or a road race. I’ve had some great rides when it’s just a few people who stop and then continue on, even if we don’t catch up. That feeling of camaraderie and knowing that we are watching each other’s back. There have been times when the entire group has stopped and waited, but there are people who get antsy and want to move on, and that’s their choice, no judgement from me, why hold up everyone. This may be the only time during the week to get their ‘hammer-fest’ on, or part of their training regimen, or going for that Strava segment PR. Personally, I view the Saturday group rides as more of an adventure, never know how things will go, what will happen, but enjoy whatever the ride brings anyway. Sorry for the long response, and not having a definite answer. Cam On Jul 2, 2015, at 9:43 AM, Cliff Scott < cliffscott@scottgroupconsulting.com> wrote: Just a quick follow-up, Cam. What is our 'policy' with flats? Should we all stop? Or pedal easy until the next regroup? I'm not sure everyone is on the same page with how we should react when one of the riders has a flat. Can you please suggest an appropriate course of action for all to follow? Thanks, Cliff -------------------------------- <Picture 1.png> Cliff Scott The Scott Group 2406 Topsail Circle Westlake Village, CA 91361 (818) 735-7370 phone (818) 257-2236 cell (855) 698-7377 fax CliffScott@ScottGroupConsulting.com On Jul 02, 2015, at 9:34 AM, Cameron Young wrote: <pastedGraphic.png> CVC RIDE PREVIEW July 4-July 9 "Flat!" ..... We all get them, and it's part of cycling. But, too often it happens in just the first few miles of a ride. Many times it's because of something picked up on a previous ride that doesn't totally puncture the tube until later. So, make sure to check your tires before the next ride. While you're at it, grab a rag and go through some critical working parts to make sure everything is in order: tires, rims, brake pads, chain and jockey wheels not gunked up, cable ends not frayed, shifting is smooth. Your bike will love you for it! -COMING UP- Tour de France Starts this Saturday! Saturday, July 11 Away Ride: Leo Carillo to Emma Wood Coastal Coffee Run. Sunday, July 12 Summer Beach Path Ride. Break out your beach cruisers! Starting at the Santa Monica Pier and riding along the boardwalk for an out and back with a stop for food and refreshments. -THE WEEKLY RIDES- Please make sure all levels have sweepers. Everyone can alternate and share the job. Fourth of July Saturday: 8:30am at The Landing parking lot Red Leader-Jerry Scott Route link: http://ridewithgps.com/routes/8092189 Orange Leader- Orange Rush: Gary Silver (same route at a faster pace) Leader- Orange Standard: Cam Young Route link: http://ridewithgps.com/routes/6924576 Gold Leader-tba Route link: http://ridewithgps.com/routes/6134436 Purple** Active when attendance dictates: Please RSVP if you are planning to ride! Leader: Henry Montalvo Route: Follows Gold and turns back early Hangover Sunday: 9am at The Landing parking lot Red Ride Leader-Jerry Scott Route link: http://ridewithgps.com/routes/956707 G.O. Ride (Gold-Orange) Leader-Dale Smith Route link: http://ridewithgps.com/routes/956707 Social Ride-Leader: Kay Fields Route link: http://ridewithgps.com/routes/2845778 Tuesday: The Landing parking lot Morning Ride-9am at The Landing parking lot Leader: Sheila Levine-Sherwyn Route to be determined at the start, 25-40 miles Gold/Orange-5:15pm-Leader: Dale Smith for Rock Store loop. Racer Ride-5:30pm-Leader: Jonathan Woodbury Rock Store & Upper Encinal loop Wednesday: No rides scheduled Thursday: Morning Ride-9am at The Landing parking lot Leader: Sheila Levine-Sherwyn Route to be determined at the start, 25-40 miles Go Thursday Ride**-5:30pm Starting locations and routes vary, so check your emails during the week. This is an intermediate level ride that starts and ends at local watering holes, so you can finish up with some food, refreshments, and socializing with your cycling friends. Please remember when parking at The Landing for any weekend morning rides to park and congregate towards the far end of the lot away from the street and use the middle row. Do not park next to the homes. ** This is considered a "no drop" ride. The ride leader will keep an eye on everyone. No one is left behind. All rides not asterisked are considered a "drop ride" so please understand the route before you start (and how to get back). If you get to a regrouping spot and no one is there, consider yourself dropped. As always we will try to stick together & have a fun safe ride. We will regroup regularly to allow everyone a chance to ride together. If for any reason you leave a group ride, please pass along the information to the ride leader. It is mandatory to have & wear a helmet. It is the rider's responsibility to ensure that the helmet is in good condition (check expiration on helmet inner tag) and that your bike is in working condition as well. That’s all for now, folks. Have a great week! Cameron “Cam” Young Ride Director Conejo Valley Cyclists 805-217-6659 Inclement weather policy: In the interest of safety, whenever it is either actively raining or the ride route has wet roads, it is our club policy to cancel a club ride. Club members may still choose to meet and ride in these conditions; however, the ride will not be considered an official club ride. _______________________________________________ announce mailing list announce@mail.cvcbike.org You can unsubscribe and manage your message preferences here: https://mail.cvcbike.org/mailman/listinfo/announce _______________________________________________ announce mailing list announce@mail.cvcbike.org You can unsubscribe and manage your message preferences here: https://mail.cvcbike.org/mailman/listinfo/announce _______________________________________________ announce mailing list announce@mail.cvcbike.org You can unsubscribe and manage your message preferences here: https://mail.cvcbike.org/mailman/listinfo/announce