Another observation I have is that the person with the flat might think that they have everything they need to fix whatever only to discover that they are missing something can can be supplied by others.
Jim




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From: Dale Smith via announce <announce@mail.cvcbike.org>
Date:07/03/2015 6:44 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: Jim Doane <jdoane1175@msn.com>
Cc: announce@mail.cvcbike.org
Subject: Re: [cvc announce] CVC Ride Preview-July 2, 2015


Well said,

-----Original Message-----
From: Cameron Young <camshaft@mac.com>
To: Dale Smith <dpssmith@aol.com>
Cc: CVC <announce@mail.cvcbike.org>
Sent: Thu, Jul 2, 2015 10:30 am
Subject: Re: [cvc announce] CVC Ride Preview-July 2, 2015

Cliff, et al,

There is no policy when someone flats or has a mechanical.  It’s more of a courtesy from one cyclist to another to stop and lend a helping hand or just keep them company.  Personal choice, I guess.  I put myself in their shoes, and how I don’t like to be stopped and continue on solo, which we all have done at some time.  So,  it becomes a ‘pay it forward’ situation. 

Many times on a group ride, the mob mentality takes over and people want to stay with the group as if it’s a Grand Fondo or a road race.  I’ve had some great rides when it’s just a few people who stop and then continue on, even if we don’t catch up.  That feeling of camaraderie and knowing that we are watching each other’s back.   There have been times when the entire group has stopped and waited, but there are people who get antsy and want to move on, and that’s their choice, no judgement from me, why hold up everyone.  This may be the only time during the week to get their ‘hammer-fest’ on, or part of their training regimen, or going for that Strava segment PR.  Personally,  I view the Saturday group rides as more of an adventure, never know how things will go, what will happen, but enjoy whatever the ride brings anyway.

Sorry for the long response, and not having a definite answer.   

Cam 

On Jul 2, 2015, at 9:43 AM, Cliff Scott < cliffscott@scottgroupconsulting.com> wrote:

Just a quick follow-up, Cam.  What is our 'policy' with flats?  Should we all stop?  Or pedal easy until the next regroup?  I'm not sure everyone is on the same page with how we should react when one of the riders has a flat.  

Can you please suggest an appropriate course of action for all to follow?

Thanks,

Cliff
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On Jul 02, 2015, at 9:34 AM, Cameron Young wrote:

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CVC RIDE PREVIEW
July 4-July 9

"Flat!" .....
We all get them, and it's part of cycling.  But, too often it happens in just the first few miles of a ride.  Many times it's because of something picked up on a previous ride that doesn't totally puncture the tube until later.  So, make sure to check your tires before the next ride.  While you're at it, grab a rag and go through some critical working parts to make sure everything is in order:  tires, rims, brake pads, chain and jockey wheels not gunked up, cable ends not frayed, shifting is smooth.  Your bike will love you for it!




-COMING UP-

Tour de France
Starts this Saturday! 

Saturday, July 11
Away Ride:  Leo Carillo to Emma Wood Coastal Coffee Run.

Sunday, July 12
Summer Beach Path Ride.  
Break out your beach cruisers!  Starting at the Santa Monica Pier and riding along the boardwalk for an out and back with a stop for food and refreshments.


-THE WEEKLY RIDES-
Please make sure all levels have sweepers.  Everyone can alternate and share the job.


Fourth of July Saturday:  8:30am at The Landing parking lot  
Red
Leader-Jerry Scott

Orange  
Leader- Orange Rush: Gary Silver (same route at a faster pace)
Leader- Orange Standard:  Cam Young

Gold
Leader-tba

Purple**  Active when attendance dictates: Please RSVP if you are planning to ride!
Leader:  Henry Montalvo
Route:  Follows Gold and turns back early




Hangover Sunday:    9am at The Landing parking lot 

Red Ride
Leader-Jerry Scott

G.O. Ride (Gold-Orange)
Leader-Dale Smith

Social Ride-Leader: Kay Fields


Tuesday:    The Landing parking lot

Morning Ride-9am at The Landing parking lot 
Leader:  Sheila Levine-Sherwyn
Route to be determined at the start, 25-40 miles

Gold/Orange-5:15pm-Leader:  Dale Smith for Rock Store loop.

Racer Ride-5:30pm-Leader:  Jonathan Woodbury
Rock Store & Upper Encinal loop


Wednesday:    

No rides scheduled

Thursday:    

Morning Ride-9am at The Landing parking lot 
Leader:  Sheila Levine-Sherwyn
Route to be determined at the start, 25-40 miles


Go Thursday Ride**-5:30pm
Starting locations and routes vary, so check your emails during the week.  
This is an intermediate level ride that starts and ends at local watering holes, so you can finish up with some food, refreshments, and socializing with your cycling friends.



Please remember when parking at The Landing for any weekend morning rides to park and congregate towards the far end of the lot away from the street and use the middle row.  Do not park next to the homes.


** This is considered a "no drop" ride.  The ride leader will keep an eye on everyone. No one is left behind.

All rides not asterisked are considered a "drop ride" so please understand the route before you start (and how to get back). If you get to a regrouping spot and no one is there, consider yourself dropped.  As always we will try to stick together & have a fun safe ride. We will regroup regularly to allow everyone a chance to ride together.

If for any reason you leave a group ride, please pass along the information to the ride leader.

It is mandatory to have & wear a helmet. It is the rider's responsibility to ensure that the helmet is in good condition (check expiration on helmet inner tag) and that your bike is in working condition as well. 



That’s all for now, folks.  Have a great week!

Cameron “Cam” Young
Ride Director
Conejo Valley Cyclists
805-217-6659




Inclement weather policy: In the interest of safety, whenever it is either actively raining or the ride route has wet roads, it is our club policy to cancel a club ride. Club members may still choose to meet and ride in these conditions; however, the ride will not be considered an official club ride.





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