Hi All, I am proposing a shorter ride for tomorrow, and if you want to add on, great. How about a Hidden Valley Route? Go down Hidden Valley Rd. Say hello to my horse, and then most will I am going to do an out and back, but anyone is welcome to add on and take it back through Thousand Oaks, Dos Vientos. I want to make it back before the heat which does not get bad until about 11. -- Sheri