Hi All, There is a chance of rain tomorrow about noon, so I am proposing a shorter route. If we want to wait until tomorrow, we can extend by visiting Jerry's horses on the way back, or you may want to add Carilisle, but for now this is my proposed route. Up to Sycamore Canyon through Hidden Valley with a stop at the bathrooms and then return through Hidden Valley. https://ridewithgps.com/routes/2896706 -- Sheri