Sorry everyone for my mistake in sending my "beet juice" reference email under the "announce" address I clicked on the wrong address in my address book - it should have been under the "member's" address You know what they say about teaching an "old dog - new tricks" For this Sat.'s Red Ride why don't we try a slightly shortened version of our : Cruisin' the Conejo: 62 mile "Challenging Metric" approx. 3,500 climbing (most in first half of ride) 8:30am Citibank Parking lot ( NE corner of Westlake Blvd. & Agoura/Hampshire Rd.'s) - park on West side of the parking lot as possible (away from Sprouts Market & other stores) (This Sat.'s ride is a different start location from the published CTC 62 mile route which starts from Hillcrest & Lawrence in T.O.) - see below where we modify the return route however ** Ride out the parking lot to the North R on Townsgate Rd. L on Lakeview Canyon L on Thous. Oaks Blvd. R on Westlake Blvd. R on Kanan R on Thousand Oaks Blvd. L on Lakeview Canyon L on Agoura Rd. R on Cornell ( by Padri's) L on Cornell Way straight across Mulholland Hwy around Malibou Lake L on Mulholland Hwy 1st RE-Group : Peter Strauss Ranch ( water-restrooms) Climb Rock Store Descend Upper Encinal Canyon & climb back out to Lechusa Rd. 2nd RE-Group : top of Upper Encinal Canyon/Lechusa Rd. R on Decker Canyon Continue straight on Mulholland Hwy at stop sign L on Decker Canyon/Mulholland T intersection descend Decker Canyon/Westlake Blvd. # 23 L on Potrero Rd. L on Lake Sherwood Dr. L Potrero Rd. R on S. Reino Rd. L on W. Lynn Rd. ( becomes Potrero Rd. again) R on Via Las Brisas 3rd Re-Group Option: Bony Mt. Coffee shop in the Dos Vientos Plaza before Borchard Rd. R on Borchard Rd. R on Reino Rd. L on Lynn Rd. ( ** this is where we deviate again from the established Cruisin' route) R on Green Meadow Rd. continue up Multi-use path past Los Robles Golf Course L on S. Moorpark Rd. R on Padres Dr. past the Surgi-Center on Rollings Oaks Dr. L on Rancho Dr. R on E. Hillcrest Dr. R on Conejo School Rd. ( say "hi" to the Elks) Under the #101 frwy Continue on Willow Lane R on Hampshire L on Westlake Blvd. ( start/finish) After ride socializing at the Natural Cafe' Rest. patio. Jim Doane - CVC Sec/Red Ride Leader